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	<title>Comments on: the stable rdiff-backup is not looking so hot for metadata on OS X</title>
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		<title>By: Pepi</title>
		<link>http://slagwerks.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/06/the-stable-rdiff-backup-is-not-looking-so-hot-for-metadata-on-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-7224</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might as well be interested in mlbackup, it includes rsync 3 (which passes ALL bbouncer tests). mlbackup makes rsync based disk-to-disk backups convenient with hardlinks to save space and speed up incrementals, autorotation and email notification. mlbackup is released under GPLv3.
Best Regards
Pepi (author of mlbackup)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might as well be interested in mlbackup, it includes rsync 3 (which passes <span class="caps">ALL</span> bbouncer tests). mlbackup makes rsync based disk-to-disk backups convenient with hardlinks to save space and speed up incrementals, autorotation and email notification. mlbackup is released under GPLv3.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Pepi (author of&nbsp;mlbackup)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe&#8217;s Amazing Technicolor Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; rdiff-backup 1.1.15 better with OS X metadata, but still room for improvement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe&#8217;s Amazing Technicolor Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; rdiff-backup 1.1.15 better with OS X metadata, but still room for improvement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe&#8217;s Amazing Technicolor Weblog       &#171; the stable rdiff-backup is not looking so hot for metadata on OS X [...]</description>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best I can understand, rdiff-backup backups aren&#039;t intended to be directly used; instead, to get the original file tree you need to run a restore (rdiff-backup -r TIME /backup /destination) from the backup.

In theory, I don&#039;t believe it should matter if the backup filesystem (/tmp/bb in this case) doesn&#039;t have all the same capabilities as the target / destination filesystem, as rdiff-backup has its own store for metadata. Just to make sure, I just tried following your suggestion of backing up to a volume created by bbouncer, but got the same results.

I&#039;m not sure what version of rdiff-backup got the extended OS X goodies, so it may be that the stable version available through macports is just too old; will find out once I&#039;ve got the bandwidth to pull down the new version &amp; retest.

Thanks a bunch for BB! Very handy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best I can understand, rdiff-backup backups aren&#8217;t intended to be directly used; instead, to get the original file tree you need to run a restore (rdiff-backup -r <span class="caps">TIME</span> /backup /destination) from the backup.</p>
<p>In theory, I don&#8217;t believe it should matter if the backup filesystem (/tmp/bb in this case) doesn&#8217;t have all the same capabilities as the target / destination filesystem, as rdiff-backup has its own store for metadata. Just to make sure, I just tried following your suggestion of backing up to a volume created by bbouncer, but got the same results.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what version of rdiff-backup got the extended <span class="caps">OS</span> X goodies, so it may be that the stable version available through macports is just too old; will find out once I&#8217;ve got the bandwidth to pull down the new version <span class="amp">&amp;</span> retest.</p>
<p>Thanks a bunch for <span class="caps">BB</span>! Very&nbsp;handy!</p>
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		<title>By: n8</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see BB is useful to you.  I&#039;m wondering why you did this two-step copy though (Sorry if the formatting doesn&#039;t come through):


$ sudo rdiff-backup /Volumes/Src /tmp/bb
$ sudo rdiff-backup --force -r 1D /tmp/bb /Volumes/rdifftest/


Perhaps you&#039;re trying to simulate a backup/restore cycle?  If so, you should probably use another bbouncer create-vol volume for the intermediate step instead of /tmp, just to be confident in the results.  This is especially true on Tiger, since ACLs weren&#039;t even enabled on the root filesystem by default IIRC.

If, after doing that, you still get failures with &quot;critical&quot; features like resource forks and finder flags you should talk to the rdiff backup people, since they seem to think it should work:

http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/FAQ.html#OSX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see <span class="caps">BB</span> is useful to you.  I&#8217;m wondering why you did this two-step copy though (Sorry if the formatting doesn&#8217;t come through):</p>
<p>$ sudo rdiff-backup /Volumes/Src /tmp/bb<br />
$ sudo rdiff-backup&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;force -r 1D /tmp/bb /Volumes/rdifftest/</p>
<p>Perhaps you&#8217;re trying to simulate a backup/restore cycle?  If so, you should probably use another bbouncer create-vol volume for the intermediate step instead of /tmp, just to be confident in the results.  This is especially true on Tiger, since ACLs weren&#8217;t even enabled on the root filesystem by default <span class="caps">IIRC</span>.</p>
<p>If, after doing that, you still get failures with &#8220;critical&#8221; features like resource forks and finder flags you should talk to the rdiff backup people, since they seem to think it should work:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/FAQ.html#OSX" rel="nofollow">http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/<span class="caps">FAQ</span>.html#<span class="caps">OSX</span></a></p>
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